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Coneflower 'Herbstsonne'

Rudbeckia 'Herbstsonne' · Asteraceae

Coneflower 'Herbstsonne' (Rudbeckia 'Herbstsonne') in flower
Photo: peganum from Small Dole, England, via Wikimedia Commons (CC BY-SA 2.0)

Towering stems carry large, clear yellow daisies with drooping petals and tall green cones from late summer. The name means 'autumn sun'.

Size
6½ ft tall, 3 ft wide
Zones
4 to 9
Light
Full sun
Flowers
Late July to mid September
Pets
No toxicity recorded
Job in a bed
Specimen

A bed built around coneflower 'Herbstsonne'

The planner designed this bed around coneflower 'Herbstsonne' when this page was made: a 12 × 6 ft (3.7 × 1.8 m) English border in zone 6, full sun. It chose the other plants from the 966 that suit those conditions, and says below why coneflower 'Herbstsonne' stands where it does.

A 12 × 6 ft (3.7 × 1.8 m) bed at eye level in late August: Coneflower 'Herbstsonne', Lingonberry, Carpathian bellflower, Bee balm 'Jacob Cline', Switchgrass 'Cheyenne Sky', Obedient plant 'Miss Manners', Camassia, Grecian windflower.
A 12 × 6 ft (3.7 × 1.8 m) English border in zone 6, full sun, seen from the path in late August.
1. Coneflower 'Herbstsonne'14. Bee balm 'Jacob Cline'44. Bee balm 'Jacob Cline'44. Bee balm 'Jacob Cline'43. Carpathian bellflower33. Carpathian bellflower33. Carpathian bellflower32. Lingonberry22. Lingonberry22. Lingonberry22. Lingonberry22. Lingonberry23. Carpathian bellflower33. Carpathian bellflower33. Carpathian bellflower33. Carpathian bellflower35. Switchgrass 'Cheyenne Sky'55. Switchgrass 'Cheyenne Sky'55. Switchgrass 'Cheyenne Sky'57. Camassia77. Camassia76. Obedient plant 'Miss Manners'66. Obedient plant 'Miss Manners'66. Obedient plant 'Miss Manners'62. Lingonberry22. Lingonberry22. Lingonberry28. Grecian windflower8. Grecian windflower8. Grecian windflower8. Grecian windflower8. Grecian windflower8. Grecian windflower8. Grecian windflower8. Grecian windflower8. Grecian windflower8. Grecian windflower8. Grecian windflower8. Grecian windflower
From above, to scale. Each circle is one plant, as wide as the room it needs.

The plants

  1. 2 Lingonberry × 8, pink
  2. 3 Carpathian bellflower × 7, blue
  3. 4 Bee balm 'Jacob Cline' × 3, red
  4. 5 Switchgrass 'Cheyenne Sky' × 3, purple
  5. 6 Obedient plant 'Miss Manners' × 3, white
  6. 7 Camassia × 2, blue
  7. 8 Grecian windflower × 12, blue

Why this plant

  • The only yellow.

Why here

  • Anchors a back corner. At 6½ ft it is the tallest plant here, and the tallest close the ends of the bed, where they stand in front of nothing.
  • A step in the back row. Next to switchgrass 'Cheyenne Sky' (3 ft): no two neighbours there are the same height, so the back steps up and down like a skyline.
  • One plant, alone. A feature plant is seen as an object, and needs clear ground around it.

Why now

  • In flower for 9 weeks. From late July to mid September.
  • Part of the bed's peak. With Carpathian bellflower, bee balm 'Jacob Cline', switchgrass 'Cheyenne Sky' and others in late July: 5 kinds at once. No week has more.

Planned as an English border: 5 of the 6 groups (83%) are drifts, longer along the bed than they are deep. Cool colours (pink, blue and purple) with yellow and red as the warm notes, and white to calm things between them. The most in flower at one time is 5 kinds, from late July.

The planner's own design check: 10 Excellent, 6 Good, 1 Needs revision. Its weakest point is height and scale: Heights average about 8 in at the front, 2½ ft in the middle and 4 ft at the back. Along the back row the heights step up and down, between 3 ft and 6½ ft, and no two neighbours are the same height. It flags one thing to watch: Nothing on this plan is highly poisonous or an aggressive spreader.

Open this bed in the planner Change its size, the sun or the style, move plants about, or swap one for another.

Where coneflower 'Herbstsonne' goes in a border

At 6½ ft it belongs at the back of a bed. In the planner's ten height classes it is very tall (5 to 6½ ft).

Its job: specimen. A feature plant with a shape of its own. It stands alone with room around it, and repeats only at a distance.

A plant for the back row, where it rises above asters and Joe Pye weed. In good soil it stands without staking; cut it back by half in June for a shorter plant.

  • Height at the back of a big border
  • Late-summer colour
  • Cut flowers

What to plant with coneflower 'Herbstsonne'

Plants recorded as good partners for it, and what each pairing does:

  • Joe Pye weed 'Gateway': in flower together for eight weeks, from late July; bold leaves against its medium ones; happy in the same moist soil.
  • New England aster: purple against yellow, opposite each other on the colour wheel, if you choose those colours, in flower together for three weeks; low enough (4 ft) to stand in front of it; happy in the same moist soil.
  • Switchgrass 'Shenandoah': its green leaves are a setting for the flowers, before and after; low enough (4 ft) to stand in front of it.

Questions about coneflower 'Herbstsonne'

Does coneflower 'Herbstsonne' need sun or shade?

Coneflower 'Herbstsonne' grows in full sun (6 or more hours of direct sun a day).

It wants soil that stays evenly moist, of average fertility, and a good soak in dry spells.

What zones does coneflower 'Herbstsonne' grow in?

USDA zones 4 to 9. It is hardy to zone 4, which means it survives winter nights down to about −20 °F (−29 °C).

Gardening in Canada? Use the USDA zone for your town: Canada's own zone map uses different numbers.

When does coneflower 'Herbstsonne' flower in my zone?

In zone 5 it flowers late July to mid September. As a summer flower it moves about half a week for every zone: earlier where it is warmer.

Roughly when coneflower 'Herbstsonne' is in flower
Zone 4Early August to mid September
Zone 5Late July to mid September
Zone 6Late July to mid September
Zone 7Mid July to mid September
Zone 8Mid July to mid September
Zone 9Mid July to mid September

Worked out from Hopkins' bioclimatic law: spring arrives about four days later for each degree of latitude north, and one zone is roughly two degrees. A warm spring or a cold one moves any garden two weeks either way.

How far apart should coneflower 'Herbstsonne' be planted?

2½ ft (75 cm) apart, from the middle of one plant to the middle of the next. That is a little closer than its full width of 3 ft (90 cm), so a group knits into one patch.

It grows 6½ ft (200 cm) tall. Give it the full distance from anything taller, or it will lean out towards the light.

How many coneflower 'Herbstsonne' plants do I need?

At 2½ ft apart, set out in staggered rows:

  • 2 to fill 10 square feet (about 1 m²)
  • 5 for a single row 10 ft (3 m) long
  • 6 to fill a 4 × 8 ft bed on its own

In a mixed border, plant it as one, with clear ground around it: a feature plant is seen as an object, and a group of them is a thicket.

In the bed above, the planner used one in one group.

Is coneflower 'Herbstsonne' poisonous to dogs and cats?

No toxicity is recorded for dogs, cats, horses or people, according to NC State Extension.

"Not toxic" is not "edible": a pet that eats a lot of any plant can be sick.

Is there a native plant like coneflower 'Herbstsonne'?

Coneflower 'Herbstsonne' is not native to North America. These North American natives come closest to doing its job:

  • New York ironweed: the same job in a bed, the same size and the same flowering time; purple, not yellow.
  • Hardy hibiscus: the same job in a bed and the same flowering time; 20 in shorter, 6 in wider.
  • Swamp sunflower: the same job in a bed and the same colour; 6 in wider, flowers late September to late October.

Matched the way the planner's Swap button matches plants: the same job in a bed, then size, then flowering time.

What flowers after coneflower 'Herbstsonne'?

Coneflower 'Herbstsonne' is over by mid September. These start as it finishes and carry the same spot on, so it never goes flat:

  • Garden chrysanthemum: from mid September to late October, 24 in tall, to stand in front of it and cover its fading stems.
  • Swamp sunflower: from late September to late October, 6½ ft tall.
  • Montauk daisy: from mid September to late October, 3 ft tall, to stand in front of it and cover its fading stems.

What does coneflower 'Herbstsonne' look like in winter?

Coneflower 'Herbstsonne' dies down to the ground and there is nothing to see until spring. The old stems can be cut in autumn, or left until spring as shelter for overwintering insects.

More Rudbeckia

In these guides

Zone guides: Zone 4 · Zone 5 · Zone 6 · Zone 7 · Zone 8 · Zone 9

In flower in: July · August · September

Every fact on record

Type
Perennial
Size
6½ ft (200 cm) tall, 3 ft (90 cm) wide
Plant
2½ ft (75 cm) apart
Height class
Very tall (5 to 6½ ft)
Place in the bed
Back
Flowers
Late July to mid September; daisies; yellow
Leaves
Medium texture, herbaceous; green
Shape
Upright, clumping
Hardy in
USDA zones 4 to 9
Light
Full sun
Soil
Average, evenly moist
Water
Moderate
Feeding
Light, in spring
Family
Asteraceae

Checked against NC State Extension. Flowering times are for zone 5: later in colder zones, earlier in warmer ones. Toxicity and spread information is a general gardening guide, not veterinary or medical advice, and invasive status varies by region. If a person or pet eats a plant, contact poison control or a vet. Check your local invasive species list before planting anything with a spread warning.